Showami: The BEST Tool To Work Smarter As A Real Estate Agent With Matt Kuchar

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Are you taking a vacation out of town, and suddenly a client calls to see the home? If so, then I understand the frustration of your dilemma between cutting off your vacation or losing a client. Well, have no fear because this episode has news for you! Matt Kuchar, the Founder of Showami, shares his biggest secret to solving your dilemma with the best tool to work smarter as a real estate agent. Showami aims to strike your dilemma on your unavailability when clients decide to look into your property. Matt also shares the biggest tipping point that made him leap into Showami. Don’t miss Matt Kuchar in today’s The Boss Life Podcast!

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Showami: The BEST Tool To Work Smarter As A Real Estate Agent With Matt Kuchar

It is Friday. I don't know when you're tuning in to this, but on Fridays, there's always a little bit more excitement. We are heading into the weekend, and I could not be more excited to bring on an incredible go-to guy to whom I was actually introduced quite a while back. Here is a little bit of background on this guy's story. He has been a real estate broker since 2000. The coolest thing is his transition from killing it in the real estate space in his own right to creating a massive platform to help so many agents on another level.

A lot of times, we get into the real estate business, and we're so excited about it, but we can get bogged down by, “We're going on vacation. All these people want to go on a showing. I have this and that going on.” It's hard to work your own hours and be your own boss when you're so tied down. He solved a massive problem in space in 2016. Matt Kutcher founded Showami, the largest buyer-showing service for real estate agents in the United States. Showami has over 40,000 agents on the showing platform. Without further ado, Matt, thank you for joining us and sharing your story.

Thanks a lot, Stephanie. Thanks, Ben. It’s great to be here. I love that we're local. We live in the same part of Southwest Florida. It's amazing, especially this time of year.

I don't know if I have ever told you my backstory, Matt, but when I hit 30, the weatherman came on and said, “Congratulations, Minnesota. You've broken the record for a number of days below zero.” I was like, “That is not a record that needs to be broken. I sold everything besides the real estate portfolio and moved to Florida full-time.” I am very happy to be with you in the Sunshine State.

How many days below zero of sign from God? Move to Florida.

I’m still in Minnesota, but it's nice to have family down there that gives me an excuse to go down there.

He's representing with all the flannels. Matt, let's dive in and talk about the transition from being a real estate broker in 2000. What prompted you to dial into creating your platform?

I’ve been in real estate since 1990. I started selling mobile homes to retirees in Florida, thanks to my father-in-law, who got me into the business. That's all I had known. I started some other sales jobs, but when we moved to Colorado, I had to recreate myself. I joined Keller Williams, started a real estate gig, and created a team, and right after that, the crash happened. I don't know if you guys remember 2008 to 2012. Most of us are like, “Please, don't go back there.” It was very challenging. I had a big team and I was like, “I’m not making any money.” I have 4 or 5 miles to feed but I’m spending tens of thousands of dollars a month in advertising and marketing, and they weren't producing. Eventually, I got rid of my team.

I went as a solo agent and started to rebuild my business. This was from 2008 to 2012. I have been through major success with crash time. I was coming out of it and I started to build my business again to where I was doing 40, 50, and 60 deals a year and then I got to 72 to 75 deals a year. This is me and a TC, Transaction Coordinator. I tried to go skiing. It's on a Friday and I’m up at the slowest with my buddy. We're about to get on the lift and I got a call from a past client going like, “This home in this neighborhood came available. We got to go see this.” I’m like, “Really?” Tip to all your readers, if you're struggling financially, go on vacation because you'll get bombarded with people.

They’d be like, “I want to list my home. I want to go buy a home.” It always happens. I did what other agents and what we always did. I started calling and texting everybody in my office, going, “Can you help?” People weren't picking up. They weren't responding to the texts. Some weren't available. They're like, “I can't. I got plans. I got dinner.” What made it worse was that it was 6:00 on a Friday in Downtown Denver. Nobody wanted it and the traffic was atrocious. This agent, Laura, finally responded and said, “I’ll do it,” and then we had to have that awkward conversation. I’m like, “Am I going to pay you? Are we trading off?”

“How does this all work because I’ve seen all of the above?” “I need you to open the door. These are past clients of mine. I’ll write the contract. I need them to get inside the house so they see if they like it or not.” We agreed on $100 and she went and showed it. I wrote the contract that night, got to go skiing, and then I was having a beer with a friend later going, “There had to be an easier way. First of all, I’m asking an agent from Highlands Ranch to drive to Downtown Denver, which is 45 minute to an hour drive in traffic. It would've been more efficient to have somebody Downtown who's already in that area to do it.” We did the whole Uber for real estate. We took a napkin in a bar, drew it out, and said, “This is what we're going to do.” That started the path.

Let's talk about your real estate career, and then we'll talk about Showami because Showami is super cool. In real estate, you said you did 72 deals. How did you get those deals? How did you structure your business? There are a lot of real estate agents tuning in to this right now. How did you do that?

I used leverage and systems. I was a major lead generation king. I looked at what other agents were doing to generate leads and I did it more than they did. We have a family, my wife and me, and our kids were young. I didn't want her to leave the house to work outside of the house, but she was willing to take time and work for me with my lead gen. At that time, we used to post in Craigslist ads, not 1 or 2 a day, but we were doing 40 to 50 Craigslist ads a day. On top of it, I was running classified ads, and I would deliver flyers in neighborhoods.

Look at what other agents were doing to generate leads, and do it more than they did.

I was doing everything I knew how to do to get my name out to all of these people. That's how I started because when I moved to Colorado, I didn't know anybody. When you moved to Florida from Minnesota, you don't know anybody. You got to start to lead generating, going out, and meeting people. Those are some of the things that I did. I got myself out there and we did massive amounts of lead generation.

I was good at follow-up. I was a bulldog. I will call you until you say, “Please don't call me again.” At that point, I was like, “I get it. I’m annoying you. I don't want to be that, but because you don't call me back doesn't mean I’m going to stop calling you.” I would dial for dollars, and I knew that it was a numbers game. I believed in my heart that I was bringing them value. I was a very successful agent in Florida. Before I left, I had started an office. This was my second time around, so I knew what I was doing.

Once I started getting going, I had clients because I did a good job at follow-up, and after they closed, I still cared, called them, marketed to them, and gave them things of value. They would refer their family and friends and do multiple transactions with me. It started to snowball. That's how I ended up getting up into the 70s. It was me and a transaction coordinator. Bridget and I had such a great relationship. I trusted her emphatically. She could do everything at that point.

I’m a huge advocate of transaction coordinators. The best year I’ve ever had is 62 deals. That's humming and moving. I would imagine Colorado is probably pretty seasonal like Minnesota is. At least for me, those 62 deals came in 9 months. The other three, you get one here, maybe two. Congratulations. That's awesome.

Thank you.

How did you make the transition since you were hitting on all cylinders and doing so well with that? How did you transition from 70-plus deals to moving into the Showami?

Like any entrepreneur, what you're doing is you're solving your own problem. I’m sitting here going, “If I have this problem getting help showing homes, even opening the door for an inspector, or doing an open house, other people do too.” I figured if I could solve my own problem, then other people would want to use the service. I saved up some cash, and I met with an attorney and software developer. I interviewed three of them. I didn't choose the cheapest but I couldn't afford the most expensive one so I went with that middle ground and we built it. This is the thing with all entrepreneurs.

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Showami: As an entrepreneur, you're often solving your own problem. So I figured if I could solve my own problem, other people would want to use that service.

When we build something, we're like, “This is my baby. Everyone is going to love my baby. If I can give it great value, everyone is going to.” You think that everyone is going to get it right away. I launched this thing in 2016, and I’m sitting back, waiting to be on Shark Tank. We did five showings, and I’m like, “Three of them were mine.” I was a little disappointed and then I’m like, “I sent out an email. How do I start attracting people to that business model?” It's a new idea. That's the hard thing for people in real estate. They’re like, “I love it. That's amazing. I can't believe you thought of that. I’m not sure I’ll use it, though.”

I’m doing my real estate business, I’ve invested all this money, and I put it out there, but I didn't have a good plan for getting it out. What am I going to do now that this thing is built? What's my go-to market? I played with it a little bit, sent out a couple of emails, tried to do some office meetings, and it grew. Pretty soon, we were doing 15 to 20, but in reality, I’m losing money every month because I have my hosting costs and everything I’m doing. It's costing me maybe $750 a month and I’m bringing in $50. I’m going, “This is not a good business model.”

The other thing that people don't realize is that I went from doing 72 deals, I’m bringing in $500,000 in GCI, to now I’m doing 50 and then 45. As I spent more and more time with Showami, my revenue in my regular real estate business suffered, and I wasn't doing as much. Still, it’s 40 to 50 deals and you're still making good money. I’m not crying poor by any stretch. I’m investing all of my time in something that I believed in but wasn't generating any revenue whatsoever. In fact, it was costing me money month after month. My wife Holly could tell you so many times that I’m like, “I’m going to shut this thing down. I’m not going to do it anymore.”

The next week, I’m like, “I got this meeting with RE/MAX professionals and they're going to launch me to their whole office. I’m going back out on Shark Tank.” You go through this emotional up and down but eventually, it starts to get a little bit more notoriety. I believe that, for any entrepreneur, you can talk about your business as much as you want. It’s when other people started talking about your business that it starts to take off. REcolorado was the big MLS in Colorado, and they're still probably one of the biggest, most progressive ones in the United States.

You can talk about your business as much as you want. When other people start talking about your business, it starts to take off.

When I first approached them, I was like, “I want to be on REcolorado. I want to be this company showing time. I want my icon on there.” I went and met with their board and everything, and then they came back and rejected me. They're like, “No. Too early. I don't think you've got a good enough system yet.” A year later, I went back and I was a little bit better prepared. This time, they’re like, “We'll tell people about you.”

That day, when that email hit, I got 250 in a two-day period. I’ll never forget because up to that point, I’m getting maybe 10 to 15 signups a day. That started to take off and I’m like, “Yes. This is great.” That's two years in. I had to suffer through a couple of years of losing money, not making anything, and not knowing how I was going to go to market before it took off.

That's awesome. One thing I would say I love about your app that is genius is that you describe it like Uber for real estate agents, which is an app description. It would be better if Uber or the rider of Uber could set their price. They could be like, “I’m looking to go from here to here. This is my price.” Right now, Uber said, “This is the price.” You have that ability to say, “Here is the price.” If you had Showami back when you were on that Colorado trip, ski trip, or whatever, and you say, “For $40 or $50,” nobody is responding, then you keep going up until somebody's like, “I’ll do it for $100.” That is the ingenious part of your app.

The counter-proposal and the agents can even go back and say, “I won't do it for this, but I’ll do it for more.” Showings are not getting picked up, especially in Colorado, because we started in Colorado. We didn't do anywhere but Colorado, and we would get these showings in the mountains that were 45 minutes to an hour drive. No one is going to pick that up for $40. My gas, let alone my time, wasn't going to work. It came out that all these showings weren't getting picked up. What's the solution? You're constantly trying to figure out what's the solution to the problem.

I love that you put that power into the agent's hands on both sides because I know, as a new agent, I didn't know a lot of the ins and outs, and I needed to get my foot in the door. If I had known about Showami way back when, I would've utilized that more. Even my new agents that come on my team, I say, “Go and be a showing specialist.” That's going to get you a lot more experience underneath your belt, and then those high producers, you can be building relationships with them. You never know where those relationships are going to go. It's tenfold of how many things can come out of that app at large.

We get messages at least once a week. Someone's like, “Thank you so much. This has launched my career. I didn't even know how to show home. Now, it made me get out there.” We try to teach people like, “You're out showing a home. This isn't your client. It's not a way to pick up business, but you're getting paid and experience. Take a photo in front of that house. You are the queen of reels. You do good with your reels.” I wish I could teach some of these people how to do reels. It's showing homes now. It shows that they're busy. They're in the business and that creates an image in somebody's mind like, “This is a successful real estate agent. They're out showing the property. I’ll use it.”

I have a good girlfriend of mine in the Jacksonville area. The first year, she was going nowhere super fast, but it looked on social media that she was slaying it. She would have so many girlfriends because she posted on a daily basis. She was doing open houses, knocking on doors, and cold calling. She was doing all of the things, but she documented it and people were like, “You must be slaying it.” She's like, “I’m blessed.” Fast forward, she's been in the business for a couple of years, and business is pouring in. It's such an amazing, great foundation for that new agent to get their foot in the door.

I’m so glad that you didn't give up on that God-sized dream because the average person would've probably been like, “If this is costing me money, this doesn't make sense.” That's the biggest tipping point between the good and the great of those that say, “God put this vision in my heart for a purpose and reason. I’m going to go all in.” When you had that moment or those different moments, I know it wasn't just one where you're like, “I don't know if this is worth it,” what was that thing that kept you going?

My wife was probably sick of having me waffle back and forth. It was in June of 2018, and I was sitting at my desk and I was like, “The month before, we had done 35 showings. We're losing money. It's costing me $750. This is the height of the season.” I prayed and was like, “God, if I’m meant to move forward with this, give me 50 transactions in the month of June. If not, I’m done.” I’m literally, “This is it.” On the 28th day of June, there were exactly 50. I’m like, “Honey, come here. There's 50.” From that point on, I was like, “This is my answer. I’m good.”

The other thing that happened at that point was that I knew that some improvements needed to be made, and that were going to cost me money. It was another $40,000. I’m like, “Do I want to invest $40,000 when I’m losing this much?” At that point, my faith was built up. The next month, we did 60 and I’m like, “This is it. Shark Tank, here we come.” I started to invest that money, and then there was no return. You're going, “I’m going to get this additional money back.” It’s putting your money where your mouth is with that. I also realized that real estate is, in some ways, a hunt, kill, and eat.

You find that deal, you're out hunting for it, you get the closing, you get your money, and then you're starving again. Unless you go out and do it again, you're done. You have to constantly be doing this. I wanted to move from a hunter to a farmer where I plant the seed, I grow the tree, and it bears fruit over and over again. That's what you can do through rental properties and owning a business where other people are working for you. There are a lot of different ways, and for me, it was Showami. I check my eye on it, and I want to get to own something that works without me having to be the driver of all of it.

That's why Steph started the show and then I came along for the ride eventually, but we're all about multiple streams of income. As you experienced, you need to become a killer in one area. Once you become a killer in that area, you diversify and go into multiple streams of income. That's exactly what you did. Hats off to you for enduring when it didn't look good for a little while. It would've been great.

That's so powerful. What would you say was that biggest tipping point for you in Showami, where you were like, “I am all in. This is my calling and my sign?” What was that biggest leap for you that was that over-the-top moment?

The one where I had 50 in one month. Now, our slowest days are over 100, and our average is way more than that. That's a day. We've done over 100,000 showings. I know you mentioned 40,000, but we're up to 75,000 agents on this. It's been crazy cool. That moment, I was like, “If I’m going to go in all in, what would that take?” I couldn't keep doing real estate and Showami. As much as I love real estate, I love helping people. Realtors are underpaid. We do a lot. We're counselors. We're everything.

I’ve fixed so many homes, met people at 11:00 at night, and moved people. That's what we do. We help people but I couldn't see myself doing both, so we decided to sell our home in Colorado. I was like, “The market is good.” We're selling it for a lot. We move down to Florida and live debt free. We could pay off our home, come down, and I could live with a lot less money on a monthly basis than what I was earning. That's the selling out. I sold everything I had, went debt-free, and then was able to live on a lot less money so that I could devote the time to Showami.

The move to Florida would be that defining moment. That was in 2019. Of course, what happened in 2020? COVID. We're sitting here and ramping up. Everything is going well. I’ve got my developer. I’m like, “We're going to come to bring you on full-time.” He quit his job and came on full-time, then all of a sudden, March 2020 hit, and you couldn't show a home. I didn't know how long this was going on. I was like, “You got to go get another job. I can't afford to keep you.” He goes, “No problem. I’ll still help you on the side.” He went and got a job, but he was still helping on the side.

What happened was so unexpected. In April, we saw a few more showings and then when May came, all of a sudden, it lit up. What had happened was that there were agents who could no longer go out and show homes and were looking for other people to show the homes for them because they were either afraid, they had a sick family member, or they were exposed. There were a million reasons. All of a sudden, through the grapevine, all of these agents started finding out about me.

Our showings shot through the roof. By June, I was like, “What is going on? We never had such success.” What I wish was that COVID had never happened for all the people it's harmed and terrible but it was the one thing that probably helped my business more than anything. It created a need. People had to have help and we had that platform. We had a marketplace where you could get help, and it spread like crazy.

What's the next step for Showami? What are your goals?

We doubled in revenue in 2022. Our goal in 2022 is to go from 75,000 to 150,000 agents. We'd like to see 10% of the agent population at least on the platform. That's our big audacious goal. We launch what's called Platinum, which is referrals open houses. We added a bunch of features. It costs $30 to $50 a year to get that.

Now we're learning to sell that, but instead of keep creating, we're going to go back and go through everything that we've created and question it like, “What's our onboarding? Maybe we need to improve that. How can we reduce friction? What about agent safety? We do some things and we improve on that. What about this communication between the agents?” What we're doing is looking at our business from a very critical standpoint. We’re like, “What are the problems with it? What can we do better?” 2022 is not creating a lot of new stuff but going back and analyzing what we're doing and making sure that we're on the cutting edge and have the best product out there, bar none.

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Showami: This year's not creating a lot of new stuff but going back and analyzing what we're doing and ensuring that Showami is on the cutting edge and has the best product out there.

It's important to figure out what season of life your business is in. Is it time to expand, or is it time to get amazing at that one thing and then expand? That's so important to get crystal clear on that.

That's hard as an entrepreneur. There's the easy button. This next thing is going to be crazy and everyone is going to love that. You're like, “No. You got to slow down and build.”

I’m curious because, as you and I both know, money is not necessary and being the best real estate agent is in marketing. It's the person that puts themselves out there the most. If you aren't good at what you do and don't have the skillset, you won't have that long-term business, but the money is in the marketing, first off, to bring that business in. With that being said, what have been your main sources of marketing for Showami at large?

Agents telling agents has been, by far, number one. A referral program where if one agent tells another agent, the agent that receives the referral gets $10, and the one that gives is $10. Agents who are on Facebook are like, “I can make money.” They've posted on all these pages and they’re like, “Have you heard about Showami? Sign up for free and you get $10 off.” We get a lot of word-of-mouth referrals. That's big. An email has always been a big thing. Our director of marketing and sales, who's also my son, is a master at SEO and pay-per-click.

If you were to google showing agent, showing assistant, or anything like that, we show up number one. We've got a lot of content and a well-designed website that is optimized for Google. That's always big. In the brokerages, we've created brokerage solutions, so we've got a lot of brokerages that reach out to us, going like, “How can we get our agents on this?” Those are good. The agent-to-agent referrals are our number one thing.

I’ve got another question for you in regard to transitioning from real estate to tech. My goal in 2023 is to launch an app. As somebody who's wanting to get into tech, what would be your biggest take, watch out for this, working with a developer, or anything like that? Are there any tips or tricks that you could give me or anybody who's watching who's thinking about getting into it?

I have a couple of things that I learned looking back on it. You owning the software is super important. In your agreement, when you're done paying for it, you need to own it. I’ll give you an example. There was a showing service out of Austin that went under in November 2021. I contacted him. I was like, “What happened?” We were having a conversation and hadn't done very many showings.

He wasn't generating any revenue. I’m like, “Tell me what you're doing, and maybe I’ll be interested in buying your business.” He didn't own it so he had to go to the developer. It's this partnership thing. If you do that and you don't own it, it's hard to sell. You want to own your software, and when you pay for it, there's an agreement that says, “I own this and it's mine.” That's important.

A lot of people don't have the money to invest. I was fortunate. I had a very successful real estate career. I had some money that I’d saved up. I had been very frugal and saved the money. The first place that you're going to go for funds is friends, relatives, and people who believe in you. You start small and with that MVP. What's the one thing I want it to do? There are a lot of things that you want your baby to do, but if it does one thing, you can test it in the market. That's what we did.

We built an MVP, put it out there, and got feedback. Start small, add the features, and build it the way that you want, but you got to make sure that there's a market for what you have. Those are some of the things. Don't go to after venture capital or anything like that. They're not going to be interested in a startup when it's a concept or an idea because there are 1 million good ideas.

This was one of the things my attorney said. He's like, “I hear ideas all the time. I like your idea. It's great but what it's going to depend on is, can you execute? Can you go from concept to a product, sell that product, get it out there where people use it, and it starts to grow? If you could do that, you're going to do fine.” Ben, tell me about your app. I want to hear it.

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Showami: There are a million good ideas. But really, what it's going to depend on is whether you can execute.

I teased it on my YouTube channel. My goal is to have a numbers calculator. There are lots of rental numbers calculators out there, but there are none that incorporate estimates for rentals. I use a service called Rentometer, and I want to fuse Rentometer and a rental calculator. If somebody is looking at a house, they put in the address and it's like, “Based on the estimate of rents, this is what we think you could get for it. Here's on the low end. Here's on the high end.” Be able to fuse those two thoughts together because all rental calculators are blank slates that you have to come up with numbers. There are so many people who are like, “What can I rent it for?” “You got to look over here and then transpose the numbers.” I’m trying to fuse that together.

I like it. That's brilliant. You were able to, in less than a minute, explain to me what it does and what the benefit is to me. The benefit is that not only can you run the numbers on a property based on the sale price, but I’m fusing in what you can get for it in rent so that you can figure out your ROI relatively easily in one place versus having to go to multiple places. You're solving a problem and it's easy to understand. I love it.

I appreciate it. I’m in the process of figuring out and finding developers and it's crazy. There are developers on Fiverr who will do it for $500 and then you can go all the way up to so much money. It's learning that landscape because I don't know tech at all.

Every entrepreneur should go through an incubator with their idea. They're priceless and so helpful. I got into one at Florida Gulf Coast University, and that was a partnership with Naples, Collier County. One of the things that he said is that there's this new software out there that's called No-code. You can cut and paste and build it yourself without a developer.

He had built an app and a responsive website. He's a soccer coach, and he would help soccer athletes get connected with NCAA schools to get scholarships and then also get into the schools. They'd upload their videos and all this stuff, but he did it himself with some no-code. You could also do no-code or pay someone to do it. I don't know if you've ever heard of no-code.

I’ve shown Steph this AI software, and I’m like, “This might potentially be a game-changer.” It sounds a little bit like that. I’m looking into all avenues.

There are great people on Fiverr, for sure. I’ve used them for a lot of stuff. Not necessarily for code, but I use Fiverr all the time.

Ben, do you have any other questions for Matt before I end with our handful of Boss Life questions?

I got one. Matt, when are you going on Shark Tank?

I got a picture with Kevin. I was at an eXp event in Orlando and I got a picture with him. I put it on Facebook so everyone thinks that I’ve already been on Shark Tank.

I sent you a message about that, Matt. I was like, “That's sick.”

That's all the questions for me. I’m excited for when you do go on Shark Tank.

We're going to be your biggest cheerleaders. Matt, this has been so fun. I loved hearing the backstory. We always end with these last three questions. The first one, if someone met you and said, “Matt, I need to become the boss of my own life and call the shots,” what's my first step?

Decision. Once you decide on what you're going to do, what steps are you going to take to make it? First of all, there's the decision and the mental, like, “I’m going to be in control of my own life.” What areas of your life are you not in control of right now? What steps are you going to take to change that? If you don't have a plan, you'll be all over the place. You have to have steps and a plan.

Next one. What is your definition of a boss?

That's Stephanie.

I am honored, Matt. You're stroking my ego here.

A boss is a servant. We're all called to be servants. I’ve got a team of five employees. We've got 75,000 agents and we're working this through five employees, and then we have customer support that's in Pakistan. I show them as much love and respect as I possibly can and I spend a lot of my time trying to serve them. In many ways, they take a lot of stuff off my plate. I’ve surrounded myself with the best people that I could and we're aligned in work ethic in an ethics. We're always going to be honest and do what's in the best interest of the people that we're serving. Those are our core values, but as the boss of those people, I’m the one who loves them the most. They become my family.

Any last words of wisdom before you give your handle so that people can get in touch with you and the platform? You want to sign up for that. If you are a new real estate agent, a seasoned agent, or anywhere in between, this is a life changer. I’ve used it. I love it and we want to pay it forward to you. Matt, any other words of wisdom?

More than anything, our careers don't define who we are. Many of us get our self-esteem. We’re like, “I’m successful.” “I’m not successful.” The people that we spend our time around in our relationships are the things that define us. When people go, “You're successful. Look at your company doing this.” I define my success way more based on whom I spend my time around and how much they love me and I love them. The bottom-line numbers of my company could be taken away from me. Where would I be? I would still be fine. I don't want it to happen but I’m still going to be fine because that's not my identity.

Our careers don’t define who we are. But, the people that we spend our time around in, our relationships – those are the things that define us.

That's so important for entrepreneurs at large. That's been one thing that I can't say I’m on the other side of yet. It’s your who and your do. Who you are and what you do. Once you've established that in your identity, all bets are off. That's awesome, Matt.

You're not worried about how my company does. If my company does badly, then I’m doing badly or my company. I’m doing great. I’ve seen companies doing amazing but the person is a wreck. I don't want that. Who wants that?

Give your handles of where people can get in touch with you.

We're both in both the Google Play Store and the app store under Showami or go to Showami.com. If you want to send me an email, it’s Matt@Showami.com. I’d love to hear from you. I love any feedback.

Thank you so much, Matt, for joining us. For all of our readers out there, we end every single episode, it is time to fire your fear, build your faith, and become the boss of your own life. Let's get after it, guys.

 

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Matt Kuchar has been a licensed real estate broker since 2000. He’s been responsible for over 700 residential real estate transactions during those years. He’s managed offices and real estate teams throughout the years and has his GRI. In 2016 Matt founded Showami, the largest buyer showing service for real estate agents in the United States. Showami has over 40,000 agents on their showing platform.